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Lawsuit filed over Wisconsin's ban on guns near water
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Dave Wainwright
2024-06-09 02:52:48 UTC
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(The Center Square) – There is a new lawsuit that challenges Wisconsin’s
rule that bans people from carrying a gun near the water.

The Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty filed the suit earlier this
week, claiming the 1999 rule makes it illegal to “possess or control any
firearm, gun or similar device at any time while on the waters, banks or
shores that might be used for the purpose of fishing,” goes too far.

WILL Associate Counsel Skylar Croy said the original rule was designed
to stop fishermen from shooting musky fish in order to get them in the
boat. But she said the Department of Natural Resources is expanding the
rule to essentially ban guns near lakes, rivers and other bodies of water.

“[Our client] is entitled to exercise his constitutional rights without
fearing unlawful enforcement. We request that the DNR correct its
administrative rule to restore the individual liberties our constitution
safeguards.” Croy said.

WILL’s client Travis Kobs says the rule means he cannot bring a gun
anytime he’s in a state park that has a lake, river or stream.

“I just want to have the ability to protect myself, and responsibly
carry a firearm, which I have been doing lawfully in Wisconsin for over
6 years,” Kobs added. “The Second Amendment is meant to apply
everywhere, so I hope eliminating this rule can protect the rights of
Wisconsin sportsmen.”

Wisconsin allowed fishermen to shoot fish until 1966, when the DNR’s
predecessor changed the rules.

The regulations at DNR, however, were expanded in 1999 to ban not just
using a firearm to fish but to possess one.

“Until 1966, not only could Wisconsinites possess a small-caliber pistol
near or on waters, banks, and shores – they could use that pistol to
shoot fish,” WILL lawsuit claims. “From 1966 to 1999, only the actual
use of a firearm to shoot fish was banned. Accordingly, the
administrative rule’s ban on firearms – even for self-defense – in
certain locations is not in keeping with a historical tradition of
firearms regulation.”

The lawsuit calls the DNR gun ban a “novel late-20th century regulatory
invention,” and says it “gives law enforcement officers ‘broad’
authority to arbitrarily ‘stop or arrest those who do possess guns near
water for any reason’.”

WILL is asking a judge in Sheboygan County to strike down the DNR’s rule.

https://www.apg-wi.com/news/state/lawsuit-filed-over-wisconsin-s-ban-on-guns-near-water/article_e9cc4514-e3a6-5d34-9317-e71a7e54c108.html
g***@aol.com
2024-06-09 13:51:04 UTC
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On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 19:52:48 -0700, Dave Wainwright
Post by Dave Wainwright
(The Center Square) – There is a new lawsuit that challenges Wisconsin’s
rule that bans people from carrying a gun near the water.
The Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty filed the suit earlier this
week, claiming the 1999 rule makes it illegal to “possess or control any
firearm, gun or similar device at any time while on the waters, banks or
shores that might be used for the purpose of fishing,” goes too far.
WILL Associate Counsel Skylar Croy said the original rule was designed
to stop fishermen from shooting musky fish in order to get them in the
boat. But she said the Department of Natural Resources is expanding the
rule to essentially ban guns near lakes, rivers and other bodies of water.
“[Our client] is entitled to exercise his constitutional rights without
fearing unlawful enforcement. We request that the DNR correct its
administrative rule to restore the individual liberties our constitution
safeguards.” Croy said.
WILL’s client Travis Kobs says the rule means he cannot bring a gun
anytime he’s in a state park that has a lake, river or stream.
“I just want to have the ability to protect myself, and responsibly
carry a firearm, which I have been doing lawfully in Wisconsin for over
6 years,” Kobs added. “The Second Amendment is meant to apply
everywhere, so I hope eliminating this rule can protect the rights of
Wisconsin sportsmen.”
Wisconsin allowed fishermen to shoot fish until 1966, when the DNR’s
predecessor changed the rules.
The regulations at DNR, however, were expanded in 1999 to ban not just
using a firearm to fish but to possess one.
“Until 1966, not only could Wisconsinites possess a small-caliber pistol
near or on waters, banks, and shores – they could use that pistol to
shoot fish,” WILL lawsuit claims. “From 1966 to 1999, only the actual
use of a firearm to shoot fish was banned. Accordingly, the
administrative rule’s ban on firearms – even for self-defense – in
certain locations is not in keeping with a historical tradition of
firearms regulation.”
The lawsuit calls the DNR gun ban a “novel late-20th century regulatory
invention,” and says it “gives law enforcement officers ‘broad’
authority to arbitrarily ‘stop or arrest those who do possess guns near
water for any reason’.”
WILL is asking a judge in Sheboygan County to strike down the DNR’s rule.
https://www.apg-wi.com/news/state/lawsuit-filed-over-wisconsin-s-ban-on-guns-near-water/article_e9cc4514-e3a6-5d34-9317-e71a7e54c108.html
I guess this is why so many Wisconsin people move to Florida. You can
open carry here if you are hunting or fishing. It has been that way
for decades.
justan
2024-06-09 14:54:48 UTC
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Post by g***@aol.com
On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 19:52:48 -0700, Dave Wainwright
(The Center Square) – There is a new lawsuit that challenges Wisconsin’s
rule that bans people from carrying a gun near the water.
The Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty filed the suit earlier this
week, claiming the 1999 rule makes it illegal to “possess or control any
firearm, gun or similar device at any time while on the waters, banks or
shores that might be used for the purpose of fishing,” goes too far.
WILL Associate Counsel Skylar Croy said the original rule was designed
to stop fishermen from shooting musky fish in order to get them in the
boat. But she said the Department of Natural Resources is expanding the
rule to essentially ban guns near lakes, rivers and other bodies of water.
“[Our client] is entitled to exercise his constitutional rights without
fearing unlawful enforcement. We request that the DNR correct its
administrative rule to restore the individual liberties our constitution
safeguards.” Croy said.
WILL’s client Travis Kobs says the rule means he cannot bring a gun
anytime he’s in a state park that has a lake, river or stream.
“I just want to have the ability to protect myself, and responsibly
carry a firearm, which I have been doing lawfully in Wisconsin for over
6 years,” Kobs added. “The Second Amendment is meant to apply
everywhere, so I hope eliminating this rule can protect the rights of
Wisconsin sportsmen.”
Wisconsin allowed fishermen to shoot fish until 1966, when the DNR’s
predecessor changed the rules.
The regulations at DNR, however, were expanded in 1999 to ban not just
using a firearm to fish but to possess one.
“Until 1966, not only could Wisconsinites possess a small-caliber pistol
near or on waters, banks, and shores – they could use that pistol to
shoot fish,” WILL lawsuit claims. “From 1966 to 1999, only the actual
use of a firearm to shoot fish was banned. Accordingly, the
administrative rule’s ban on firearms – even for self-defense – in
certain locations is not in keeping with a historical tradition of
firearms regulation.”
The lawsuit calls the DNR gun ban a “novel late-20th century regulatory
invention,” and says it “gives law enforcement officers ‘broad’
authority to arbitrarily ‘stop or arrest those who do possess guns near
water for any reason’.”
WILL is asking a judge in Sheboygan County to strike down the DNR’s rule.
https://www.apg-wi.com/news/state/lawsuit-filed-over-wisconsin-s-ban-on-guns-near-water/article_e9cc4514-e3a6-5d34-9317-e71a7e54c108.html
I guess this is why so many Wisconsin people move to Florida. You can
open carry here if you are hunting or fishing. It has been that way
for decades.
Also in Florida, you can visit a convicted criminal of 45 felony
counts.

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